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Shirls
26-04-2000, 11:30 AM
Lads,
Unfortunately, personal circumstances are forcing me to sell my beloved Yaris. I know this subject has been dealt with before but refresh my memory, where is the best place to sell privately? Does Buy & Sell generate any genuine interest??? And what is a legitimate price to look for, I paid £11,100 for a 4 door, p/s, c/l, twin air bags, e/w....anyone give me some ideas???
Thanks
Shirls
Junior
26-04-2000, 12:13 PM
Shirls,
One of my mates is selling a Rover 214 now its at a reasonable price .. but hes had no interest wot so ever .. the price of the Y'arse depends on wot you can afford ..check around your local garages and see wot they are flogging them at .. also you can check the Buy & Sell to see if there are any other Y'arses for sale and see wot you can pitch it at ..
Hmm just to throw in the bit of smut .. any chance of seeing the Twin Airbags ?
Cheers
Junior
Shirls
26-04-2000, 12:19 PM
Hmmm well they are a little dusty, have been covered up for a long time and never got much use so i'm not sure how attractive they would be ;) they only really come out in emergencies .....
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Chancer
26-04-2000, 12:34 PM
Hi Shirls,
There's a couple more factors that have an effect on the selling price, like mileage, condition of the car, if it was ever involved in a accident, how old is it, full service history etc.
I see that the classifieds still aren't open yet here on eForecourt, so there's no point in advertising here ( sorry eForecourt - yet)! I'd say the strongest place would be Buy'N'Sell. Have a look for other Yaris ads and see what price they’re advertised for. Then put in your advert less a couple hundred pounds (or more if a quick sale required). As most people advertise a price they will never actually get, and end up haggling, it may me wiser to come in at your rock bottom price and say 'No Offers'. At least that way you shouldn't get too many tire kickers. A small car like yours will always sell faster than a bigger car, so you shouldn't have any trouble there. HTH.
Astraman
26-04-2000, 03:43 PM
Use the Buy & Sell.I sold my last car no problem through using it.Just log into www.Buy&Sell.net (http://www.Buy&Sell.net) and it wont even cost you the price of a phone call to advertise it.
By the way what year is it and how much miles are on the clock.
Agree with the above about Buy&Sell. It doesn't cost a penny, and you can type in all the details through their web site. Do put in a fair price though, otherwise you'll receive no calls at all.
Shirls, what are the extra details for you car? ie year, mileage, metalic, any extras? Etc. Maybe we can help you phrase the ad?
WhipLash
27-04-2000, 11:57 AM
Ah Shirls, your beloved Yaris, after all the two of you have been through ;). Well whatever the reason I’m sorry to hear that you have to get rid of it. I agree that selling it on Buy and Sell is probably the best route to take (at the present time anyway!). Be aware though, that most of the prices there are ridiculously inflated. Also, I do remember you had to have repairs done on the car. You’ll have to disclose this to the buyer, so I hope you got the job done in a reputable company, and that you kept the receipts. I’d be very interested to hear how you get on with selling it, so please do let us know how you get on.
Anders
27-04-2000, 01:22 PM
Does this have anything to do with your question about insurance a while back?
And don't tell any prospective buyers about your repairs unless they point them out or specifically ask about it. Never underestimate the power of denial.
Shirls
27-04-2000, 02:34 PM
Well to be honest, i bought a new car for my job, thought i'd be doing a lot of travelling...but it didn't materialise, due to re-shuffling. Hence the car only has less than 1K miles on it, due to only being used at weekends. Thats my main reason for selling, forking out a lot of cash for something thats just a garden ornament.
Anyway, there are no extras apart from what i mentioned above..p/s, e/w, c/l ..... i was going to refrain from mentioning the repairs, the panels were completely replaced by the garage in which i bought the car.
Junior
27-04-2000, 02:49 PM
Shirls is there any chance the garage would buy it back off you ??
Or do you want<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">DIRTY CASH</FONT f> in the paw ?
Shirls
27-04-2000, 03:07 PM
Well to be honest, i'm hoping to pay off my finance with it...so i don't think i'd get enough thru a garage to do that (was offered 8k)...i was hoping to get about 9.5k ...is that unrealistic?
Astraman
27-04-2000, 03:37 PM
You may get 9.5G for it but 9G is more realistic.Also I'd say a perpective buyer might be wondering why it's been sold with less than 1K on the clock.Is it a 00 or a 99 reg?
Anders
27-04-2000, 03:48 PM
When selling or changing a car expect to lose a lot of money. That's just the way things are. You should get more than the garage offered, they are obviously gonna sell the car with a profit. The car still has manufacturer bumber-to-bumber warranty, right? So a prospective buyer isn't gonna take any risks buying your car. Well worth mentioning. Try to make it sound as if you drive the car every weekend or regularly. Usually not a good thing to buy a car that's not been used.
If I were you I would consider keeping the car. If your circumstances change again, you will be kicking yourself as you will inevitably take a hit on selling the car. But then I couldn't live without a car, whether I need one or not. Having a car gives enormous flexibility.
It doesn't sound as if you're in a hurry to sell the car so advertise it at £9.5k and lower the price as time goes on until you get callers. Because it has such low mileage and lady driver and all that, you should have an edge over other people trying to shift their beloved Yarises.
WhipLash
27-04-2000, 03:53 PM
What, only 1,000 miles :eek:? Sure that could nearly be sold as a 'demo' car! The price you’re asking sounds fine to me. Sure its probably still within its 3 year warranty? That’s a great advantage to play on when selling.
Just going back to the repair business, isn't it standard practice to give any details of accidents that the vehicle had been damaged in?; otherwise the buyer can come back and take legal action against you for not disclosing it in the first place? For example, say the buyer was in an accident and it was brought to their attention that the car was structurally weekend to a degree due to a previous accident? Not something I would want playing on my mind! Surely if would be better to come clean in the first place, but maybe play down its significance?
Astraman
27-04-2000, 04:06 PM
That may be the strict letter of the law Whip but I don't know of anybody who's going to tell a perspective buyer that they've crashed the car before.Anyhow if it had been badly damaged enough it would probably be noticeable in some shape or form.
Actually speaking of the law I was selling a car privately before and the buyer told me that the law states that the seller has to provide a 3 month garauntee against major components eg.engine,brakes etc.It's a consumer protection law.
I thought he was pulling my leg and told him that I wasn't going to give him a garauntee as I was selling it cheap anyway and if he wasn't interested then fair enough.
Anyway he bought the car but I was wondering if he was telling the truth afterwards or just bargaining with me.
PaulKanters
27-04-2000, 04:24 PM
I think this is total rubbish. When you buy something from a private individual, I am afraid there is no comeback.
If you buy it from a company/dealer/trader, the consumer rights kick in and you can fall back on some safeguards. In case of a dispute, you can start a small claims procedure and have it resolved fairly quickly. Whether you will be getting somewhere with a shady dealer is a different story, but at least you have the option.
If you buy privately, it's up to the buyer to make sure there are no hidden pitfalls...
Same with an auction, if you buy at an auction and it's not up to scratch, there is very little that you can do, as the auction house cannot be held responsible for any dodgy goods.
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WhipLash
27-04-2000, 04:57 PM
Well I suppose the Yaris isn't exactly a cut and shut case, so no worries there. BTW, when I said ‘disclose’, I didn't mean to advertise openly that a vehicle had been involved in a crash. What I mean is that if the buyer asks you, you are legally obliged to tell them (AFAIK).
Michael Power
27-04-2000, 05:38 PM
Hmmm.....
The principle of Caveat Emptor (buyer beware) applies here I think. If it didn't we would have legal cases backed up for miles outside the courts. Like every other private purchase, I don't think that the Sale of Goods act or any other act for that matter applies.
The big problem Shirls will have I think is that anyone who wants a Yaris and has the bones of £10K to buy it, will almost certainly try to buy a new one. I imagine that selling almost new cars privately is very difficult.
Michael
Anders
27-04-2000, 05:47 PM
Paul, comeback for what? The point is that the car is presumably under bumber-to-bumber warranty. You have total dealer backup if anything goes wrong with it. This is much better than the vague 3 month warranties garages give on a used car.
In any event, it doesn't really matter what you think is rubbish or not, this is about selling a car. I don't know how you sell cars, but most every car salesman I have ever come across have come out with some serious bull**** in order to sell a car. This has ranged from exaggerating the bhp to claiming that there is really no difference between BMWs and Toyotas these days. Maybe Shirls should use that one...
WhipLash
27-04-2000, 07:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael Power:
The big problem Shirls will have I think is that anyone who wants a Yaris and has the bones of £10K to buy it, will almost certainly try to buy a new one. I imagine that selling almost new cars privately is very difficult.
Michael<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well spotted MP. There is another side to this though. Say someone was interested in buying a new car for in or around 9k, like a Daewoo Matiz for example. Now it doesn't take much to see that for an extra £700 or so, they could have a much better/bigger/more reliable car, which in the end will probably hold on to its value quite well - and it will also carry full manufacturer warranty to boot.
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